Dr. Marvin Marshall on Education and Parenting

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The Hierarchy of Social Development in High Schools

Question:
I’m a teacher at a suburban Atlanta charter high school. As a member of the discipline committee for the high school, I am involved in the rethinking/restructuring of our discipline system and, of course, you and your program have come to our attention.

We have perused the “Quick Explanation” on your “Summary” link of your web site and have ordered your book. We are very interested in the “Raise Responsibility System.”

We have considered having posters with the A, B, C, D concepts printed for every classroom. However, several of us are concerned that these may come across as too juvenile for high school students. We suspect that these concerns will be addressed in your book when it arrives, but in the meantime can you allay these concerns or clarify how we might present the concepts to older students?

My Response:
The RAISE RESPONSIBILITY SYSTEM is the subject of the third chapter. It shows how the A, B, C, D levels separate the student from behavior—thereby negating the need for a student to self-defend, which so often is the start of an adversarial dialogue.

Since some high school students are attracted to the idea of anarchy, Level A needs to be made personal. Discussions are the key. First, have students describe some situations which would occur if there were to be no law or order. The discussion will conjure up examples where some would steal and bully others. Anarchy generally suggests doing what you want without regard to others.

Then, make it personal. Ask how students would like it if there were no laws, no judicial system, and no executive department. “If someone stole something from you or bullied you and there were no laws against it, no system of justice, and no police to protect you, how would you like it?”

When anarchy is personalized it quickly loses its appeal.

For Bevel B, Bullying/Bothering—making one’s own rules—discuss how people feel when others push them around.

For Level C, talk about peer pressure and why we do things because we want to belong—even though we know that sometimes what the group is doing is neither good for them nor for us.

Understanding external motivation, Level C, and being able to recognize when peer pressure stimulates them to do something, is empowering. Having a way to articulate the concept allows young people to resist the power and persuasiveness of peer pressure.

For Level D, discuss what has given them the greatest satisfaction of anything they have ever done. The answer will always come to some personal satisfaction through effort, rather than someone’s telling them to do something.

Understanding internal motivation, Level D, and taking the initiative to do the right thing, brings feelings of satisfaction and internal rewards that Level C—external motivation—can never duplicate.

It is the teaching of these concepts of levels of social development that is the basis and sets the foundation for the “Raise Responsibility System.”

In terms of the direction, maturation, and satisfaction of your students’ lives, their having a way to recognize and differentiate differences between internal and external motivation may be one of the more important learnings your students will ever be given.

Regarding bulletin boards for your high school students:
(1) Post the vocabulary in a hierarchical order with “Anarchy” at the bottom and “Democracy” on top. On a personal note to show the effect of daily viewing, I am a graduate of Hollywood High School where every day I saw the school’s motto, “Achieve the Honorable.” How does one forget something seen every day for three years?

(2) Post questions which are reflective and self-evaluative, e.g., “Is what you are doing helping get your task done?” “Are you pleased with your effort?” “Is what you have done quality work?”

Finally, review significant points and the posters at products and services.

Communicating with Others about the Approach

I received the following e-mail:

“It would be great if somehow a chat room could be set up for like-minded teachers. It could be a site for those who wish to be positive and non-punitive in their methods in dealing with youngsters, where they could share their trials, their successes and their concerns, and perhaps obtain some advice and feedback from colleagues and experts such as yourself.”

“Dr. Marshall, do you think anybody would be interested in something like this? If so, maybe you could perhaps incorporate something like this into your web page.”

I responded as follows:

A chat room is a real-time live environment that requires two or more participants to be typing back and forth. Due to different time zones and people’s various schedules this approach may not be practical. However, we have set up a bulletin board where people can post questions or thoughts and then others can view the postings and reply at any time. This is the MAILRING at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisciplineWithoutStress/

Kerry, a member,  has organized a compilation of previously asked and posted questions and categorized them for others to quickly find questions and responses. See http://disciplineanswers.com/

Thanks for asking.

Raise Responsibiltiy System: Phases II and III

QUESTION:
Regarding the RAISE RESPONSIBILITY SYSTEM, when checking for understanding do you use a referral if the student does not give appropriate responses to the teacher questions?

RESPONSE:
No.

Just ask the class, “What level do we call it when someone makes his own standards of behavior?” The class will give you the answer and you continue teaching. The point of this phase is to have acknowledged that there was an unacceptable level of behavior.

If disruptions continue, then move into phase III, Guided Choices (using authority without being punitive) where a procedure or consequence is ELICITED. Another approach is to give the student an assignment with a choice, e.g., completing the essay or self-diagnostic referral by oneself, with another student, in the seat, or in the office.

The vision to keep in mind is that the most effective ways to change behaviors are: (1) using noncoercion, (2) prompting the person to self-evaluate, and (3) if authority is necessary, have the student own the consequence. When a consequence is imposed, the youngster feels the victim. But, when a consequence is elicited, the child owns it and grows from his own decision.

Remember, the vast majority of situations are handled just by using phases I (teaching the four concepts) and phase II (checking for understanding). Phase III is used when a student has already acknowledged inappropriate behavior and continues it. The purpose then is for the teacher (1) not to become stressed and (2) to return to teaching as soon as possible.

Raise Responsibility System: Question about Phase II

QUESTION:
We have been discussing how to use the Raise Responsibility System in our classrooms and we have a question.

When checking for understanding, if the student identifies the level correctly, do you still give a referral to fill out?

RESPONSE:
No!

A prime reason why the levels are taught (phase I of the system) is to create a benchmark or reference frame. Checking for understanding (phase II) is the second step of simple cognitive learning theory. First we teach (levels of social development); then we test (check for understanding).

The key to the success of the program are these first two phases. When a youngster acts inappropriately, the teacher asks in an inquiring tone using relaxed body language, “On what level is that behavior?” With some students and with those above grade seven (7), the question can be perceived as coercive. In these situations, just say, “Reflect on the level you are choosing and decide if you want to continue it.” The question or statement prompts the student to reflect on the chosen level. That is why it is essential to teach the levels of social development first—so that the youngster has a benchmark or framework upon which to reflect.

Using phases I and II separates the act from the actor, the deed from the doer, a good kid from inappropriate behavior. The result of the procedure is that the youngster does not have to self-defend. It is defensiveness on the part of the youngster that usually results in a confrontation between adult and youth.

If the system did nothing else than separate the student from inappropriate behavior, it would be worthwhile teaching the levels because adversarial relations and stress are bypassed.

Guided Choices of the Raise Responsibility System

I have  questions about the essays in the Raise Responsibility System.

After a student fills out an essay or a self-diagnostic referral and gives it to the teacher, is it best to read it right away and respond in front of the class?

Response:

Read it to be sure the student has taken responsibility. Both forms are private between you and the student. The class should not be involved in either an essay or a self-diagnostic referral.

Question:
Should it just be put on the teacher’s desk and an appointment made to discuss it, or is there not a discussion with the teacher?

Response:
The main purpose of Guided Choices (phase 3 of the Raise Responsibility System ) is to isolate the student, give the student an assignment for reflection, and for the teacher to immediately return to teaching.

Before dismissal, ask two questions: (1) “Do you know why the form was given you?” With Level B, the teacher uses authority but clears the air with the second question: “Do you think it was personal?” You want the student to understand that you have no ill feelings. You are only after more responsible behavior.

Remember, the key to the program is neither the essay nor referral form. It is having your students understand the differences between Level B (unacceptable behavior), Level C (conformity and peer pressure), and Level D (doing right because it is the right thing to do, regardless of peer pressure,.i.e.,
taking initiative and being responsible).

Emphasize the maxim: If you want to be proud of yourself, then do things of which you can be proud.

Finally, keep in mind that the forms are not to be used with early primary students. Also, keep in mind that ELICITING a procedure or consequence is an alternative approach for Guided Choices.

The Raise Responsibilty System Explained

Question:

We have been discussing how to use the Raise Responsibility System in our classrooms and have a  question. When checking for understanding, if the student identifies the level correctly, do you still give a referral to fill out or do you only use a referral if the student does not give appropriate responses to the teacher questions?

Response:

Neither.
A prime reason why the levels are taught (phase 1) is to create a benchmark or reference frame. Checking for Understanding (phase 2) is the second step of simple cognitive learning theory. First we teach (levels); then we test (check that the student understands the levels).

In Checking for Understanding, the student acknowledges the level of chosen behavior. By identifying a level—rather than the specific behavior—the student does not have to self-defend. By separating the two, it is easy for the student to accept responsibility for a poor behavioral choice.

Once the student acknowledges an unacceptable level of behavior by identifying level A or B, Checking for Understanding is completed. The teacher immediately returns to the lesson.

If the student does not give an appropriate response (acknowledging  level A or B), just ask the class. By asking the short, simple question, “On what level is that behavior?” the levels of social development are being reinforced to the entire class. And class members will answer the question. Do not spend more than 30 seconds on this procedure. Remember, the purpose of phase 2 is to have the student become aware of inappropriate behavior and take ownership of it.

The third part of the Raise Responsibility System (phase 3) is employed when the student has already acknowledged inappropriate behavior and continues it.

In using phase 3 of Guided Choices, whenever possible ELICIT a consequence (or even better a procedure to redirect future impulses)—rather than imposing one. In this way, the student has more ownership of the consequence.

Using the Levels of Social Development

Question:

This will begin my second year of teaching. Last year, I had trouble with behavior in my classes (7th grade). I have been reading your book. I like what you have to say; it makes sense to me.

I would like to begin teaching the four levels of classroom behavior right away, but I have some reservations.

(CLARIFICATION: The two lower levels describe behaviors; the two upper levels describe motivation.)

My question: How soon should I begin to teach your system? Colleagues keep telling me to be tough at the beginning of the year, that it is easier to loosen up later in the year than it is to try to regain control of an unruly class. I am eager to try your system, but at the same time I am concerned that if I don’t use punishments and consequences I will be perceived as “a pushover” by my students.

Response: Just ask yourself two simple questions: (1) Is society today as it was 20 years ago? Are young people today exposed to the same media and messages as in former years? If you believe society and young people are the same, then use old approaches (but realize they are unsuccessful with many students).

Suggestion: Look around and see how many of those who are giving you counsel become stressed when a classroom disruption occurs. Those teachers who get stressed have it backwards. When a student acts inappropriately, the STUDENT—rather than the teacher—is the one who should experience stress.

The keys to influencing behavior are: (1) have high expectations and (2) empower your students so they want to be responsible—rather than overpowering them by using coercive approaches of threats, imposed consequences, and unnecessary stress.

You accomplish the first by being proactive, rather than waiting and then having to react. That is the purpose for teaching the four levels of social development.

You accomplish the second by letting your students know that you are more interested in their becoming responsible than you are in teaching toward obedience.  Communicate in positive terms. Be constantly aware of the tendency for your messages to come out in the negative. Continually ask yourself, “How can I say that in a positive way?”

Hone in on the skill of asking reflective, self-evaluative questions, e.g., “Is that helping you get your work done?”

If you are still unconvinced, ask your students which they would prefer. If they choose for you to promote responsibility rather than obedience, let them know that this approach is CONTINGENT upon their acting appropriately.

In addition to teaching the levels, be sure you TEACH PROCEDURES. Don’t just tell students how to settle down, how to quickly get their attention when you want to speak, how to collect papers, etc. HAVE THEM PRACTICE THE PROCEDURES.

If you teach the levels and your students see your faith and trust in them, and if you teach routines of how you expect things to be done, you will experience the true joy that classroom teaching offers.

Finally, realize that successful teaching revolves around relationships  and motivation.

A Better Way Than Imposed Punishments

Punishment is based on the idea that a person needs to be hurt in order to learn. This is fallacious thinking—especially when dealing with young people.

When punishment is imposed, the person being punished feels like a victim. Victims take no responsibility for their behavior. In addition, IMPOSED punishments evoke negative feelings on the part of the punished towards the punisher.

A more effective approach is to ELICIT a consequence (or a procedure to prevent future such behaviors) from the youngster by asking, “What should we do about this?” If the response is not satisfactory, then ask, “What else?” “What else?” until what the youngster says is acceptable.

Using this approach, the child is taking responsibility for the consequence. This ownership negates victimhood thinking. NOTE: If the consequence elicited is too severe, modify it before agreeing to it.

Eliciting a consequence is far more effective than imposing one.

A Key Thought from the Education and Parenting Books

Life is a conversation. Interestingly, the most influential person we talk with all day is ourself, and what we tell ourself has a direct bearing on our behavior, our performance, and our influence on others. In fact a good case can be made that our self-talk creates our reality.

Both the parenting book and the education book show how to engage in self-talk so that stress is reduced, effectiveness is increased, and relationships are improved. The education book is primarily for classroom teachers. Anyone working with other people—regardless of age—can benefit from the parenting book.

Eliciting and Impulse Control

QUESTION:

I have your book, and I’m trying to find the best way to approach students who have physically harmed another. An example: One little girl pinched a boy because she thought he was going to pull some books down on her. He almost pulled the books on me.

The three of us discussed the incident and the two students seemed satisfied. I asked the pinched child what he thought should happen and the pinching child apologized. Was there another way for me to approach the situation?

RESPONSE:

Excellent! You ELICITED from the child, rather than impose something.

The next step is to establish some procedure. Let’s assume the student has the urge to do it again. Discuss what can be done to redirect the urge and thereby manage it.

It could be as simple as standing and then sitting or scratching her head—anything that will redirect the urge.

Have students create adverse situations and discuss options for how they can respond to them. After sharing various choices they can make in the situations, have them practice gasping a deep, long breath. Now have them visualize a traffic signal while imagining the situation–and taking a deep gasp. Then have them picture the yellow of the light while thinking of their options. Finally, have them visualize the green while they decide to go with the option they think will be most effective.

The GASPING while visualizing the red light, the visualizing of yellow while THINKING of options, and the visualizing of green while CHOOSING THE BEST OPTION can prevent a person from becoming “emotionally hijacked.”

At the request of a teacher in New York City,  I taught this “impulse management” procedure to two of her students. I then informed the teacher that when these students become victims of their impulses again, just ask them two questions: (1) “Do you want to be a victim or a victor?” and (2) “Did you think of the traffic signal?” Having students reflect on these questions will be quicker, less stressful, and more effective than customary coercive approaches.

Since you have the book, see pages 154-155 for a further explanation of this simple impulse control procedure.

NOTE: I gave each of the students a small laminated card with a picture of a stop light and directions on it.  If you are interested in them, check out the cards.

If you would be interested in a large poster of the above, check out posters.